Jaques Louis DE RÉGNIER 
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(male)- TITLES/'DIT' NAMES/OCCUPATIONS: minister at Thierrens
- MARRIAGE: 1798
_Jean DE PREZ __________+
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| _Boniface DE VILLARZEL _+
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The house of the de Prez family, dating from 1421, if not earlier, still stands, in the north section of the old "bourg" of Lutry. The house was owned by Noble Aymé de Prez, Sr. de Corcelles-le-Jorat when François Gachet died there in 1575. N. Aymé de Prez has the distinction of being the father of the wife of Isbrand Daux, who used his office of bourgmaître de Lausanne in a plot to deliver the city into the hands of the Duke of Savoie in December, 1588. The plot, known in French as "la conjuration d'Isbrand Daux," was discovered at the last minute, but Daux and a number of other conspirators, including N. François de Prez, son of Aymé, were able to escape into Savoie. It has always been supposed that there were other conspirators or supporters of the plot whose names have never come to light. (See the article of Maxime Reymond, "La conjuration d'Isbrand Daux", published in several installments in Revue historique vaudoise, volumes 24-25, 1916-1917.) Gabriel de Prez must have been another son of Aymé de Prez, and after his descendants sold their claim to Corsier-sur-Lutry and other fiefs, and the fief of Corcelles-le-Jorat was confiscated from François de Prez for his part in the conspiracy, the de Prez family seems to have retired to Savoie permanently.
Because of the close association of the de Prez family with François Gachet, it is possible that his second wife was another daughter of Aymé de Prez.
David Martignier and Aymon de Crousaz (Dictionnaire historique, géographique et statistique du Canton de Vaud, 1867) give a brief history of the fief of Corcelles-le-Jorat (pp. 241-243), giving the name of the wife of Aymé (she is also cited as Ayma de Villarzel). From the history of the fief, it appears that Aymé should have been the son of Jean de Prez, son of Guy de Prez and his wife Jeannette, apparently the sister of Pierre Mestral of Lutry. The de Prez family seems to have come originally from Rue, in Canton Fribourg. However, a document from 1537 clearly establishes that his father was Bartholomeius de Prez: "C XXII NF05929, Intitulé: 1537 août 13. - Noble Aymé de Prez, seigneur de Corsy sur Lutry, fils de noble Barthélemy de Prez, seigneur de Corcelles-le-Jorat, entre dans l'hommage lige de LL.EE. de Berne et reconnaît tenir sous hommage lige et noble des biens tenus jadis par noble François de Russin, et acquis par Barthélemy de Prez, puis donnés par ce dernier à son fils Aymé en l'émancipant: La ville et territoire de Corsy sur Lutry, avec juridiction accoutumée, etc, et les biens et revenus qui en dépendent rière Corsy, Belmont, Lutry, Cour, Lausanne. Il tient aussi l'exemption et liberté de la loi du sceau de la cour de l'official. Avec d'autres biens procédés des Villarzel. - Reconnaissance reçue par le commissaire Johannes Gignilliatti." This is confirmed by another document: "C XXII NF05928 C XV 17/8, Intitulé: 1531 juin 21. - Arbitrage mettant fin à un différent entre Claudius de Glane et Aymo de Prez, fils de Barthélemy de Prez, au sujet de la seigneurie de Corsy sur Lutry. Barthélemy de Prez avait acquis Corsy de François de Russin, pour 1700 ff.pp., sous grâce de rachat, puis donné cette terre à son fils Aymo en l'émancipant. Claude de Glane cède par arbitrage son droit de rachat pour 900 ff.pp. (Cf. C XV 17/6) Sceau manquant de l'official de Lausanne. - Reçu par Johannes Gignilliatti. In pede: 1584 octobre 12. - Laud de cette cession par le bailli de Lausanne en faveur de François de Prez." However, from the chronology, Bartholomeus was apparently a son of Johannes.
_Guy DE PREZ ________
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_Bartholomeus DE PREZ _+
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_Aymé DE PREZ ______________|
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_Gabriel DE PREZ ________|
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_Bartholomeus DE PREZ _+
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_Aymé DE PREZ ______________|
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_Gabriel DE PREZ ________|
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Implicated in the "Conjuration d'Isbrand Daux", he fled with his family to Savoie, where he remained. We assume that he is the same François de Prez who married Bernardine d'Avenches, widow of Claude de Praroman, but it is possible the latter François belongs to an earlier generation.
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|--François DE PREZ
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| _Boniface DE VILLARZEL _+
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|_Aimée (Emaz) DE VILLARZEL _|
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_Jean DE PREZ __________+
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_Aymé DE PREZ ______________|
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|--Françoise DE PREZ
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| _Boniface DE VILLARZEL _+
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|_Aimée (Emaz) DE VILLARZEL _|
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He enrolled at the University of Basel in 1552/53, cited as "Gabriel de Pret a Corcellis Bernas" (in other words, Gabriel de Prez Sr. de Corcelles, from the territory of Bern) and as "Gabriel Propinquus Lustreiensis" (in this case, translating his surname as if it were "de près", meaning "nearby", and placing his origin at Lutry, where the de Prez family had an ancient residence). As a result of his brother's implied participation in the "Conspiration d'Isbrand Daux", he seems to have settled in Chablais, but had died by 1598, when Isbrand de Crousaz purchased property from his heirs.
_Jean DE PREZ __________+
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_Aymé DE PREZ ______________|
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|--Gabriel DE PREZ
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| _Boniface DE VILLARZEL _+
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|_Aimée (Emaz) DE VILLARZEL _|
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_Bartholomeus DE PREZ _+
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_Gabriel DE PREZ ________|
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| |_Clauda DE LA MOLIÈRE _+
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|--Jean Gaspard DE PREZ
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Marriage contract dated 29 apr 1566 recorded by Benoît Nible, notary of Payerne (ACV Dp 73/2, fol. 243) gives her parentage and the name of her previous husband. The discovery of this contract explains the fact that François Gachet died at the house of Noble Aymé de Prez in Lutry, who is now found to be his father-in-law.
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|--Jeanne DE PREZ
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Listed as the late brother of either Jean de Rive or of Jacob son of Jean de Rive in an ambiguously worded document recorded by Pierre Chuard in 1538. Since Claude brother of Jacob de Rive appears in a document of Aimé Chuard in 1544, the earlier reference implies the existence of Claude, brother of Jean de Rive.
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Since he and his brother Jacob de Rive were clearly alive to transact business in 1544 (second register of Aimé Chuard, notary at Payerne, fol. 67, dated 13 mar 1544), it follows that the mention of "the late" Claude de Rive in a document of 1538 (Pierre Chuard, notary, father of Aimé Chuard) must refer to a brother of Jean de Rive, even though the construction of this passage is otherwise ambiguous. On the other hand, it is possible that there is some other explanation, such as a scribal error, for the transaction of 1544.
_Jaquetus DE RIVE ___
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_Jean DE RIVE _______|
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She is mentioned in the terrier ACV Fm 52 several times, notably in the descriptions of the parties holding the seigneurie of the fiefs enumerated.
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Interesting information is contained in a "grosse de reconnaissances" prepared in 1774 by Nillon, from which the history of the seigneurie de Givrins was published in the Revue historique vaudoise in 1906. Nillon calls the first husband of Françoise de Rive "noble Franz Dessus l'Esel".
_Jaquetus DE RIVE _________
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_Oddet DE RIVE ___________|
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_George DE RIVE ________|
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Two sets of parents have been suggested. The most "popular" choice seems to be Amédée de Rive and Isabelle de Compois. Before George de Rive purchased the seigneurie of Prangins, it had belonged to the de Compois family; however, if he had these parents, it seems most likely he would have inherited Prangins, and so would not have needed to buy it! The other possibility for the parentage of George is Oddet de Rive and Isabelle Bertin.
The latter parentage appears to be correct, as first suggested by Alexandre Daguet ("Essai sur Georges de Rive seigneur de Prangins, second gouverneur de Neuchâtel (1529-1552) et ses relations avec l'avoyer Faulcon (Falk) de Fribourg (1516-1519)", in Musée Neuchâtelois, 19:57-64, 100-104, 124-128, 1882), based on a letter in the de Praroman collection at the archives of Fribourg. The undated letter, evidently from the Saturday after Christmas in 1517 or 1518, is addressed from George de Ryve to Pyerre Faulcon, advoyer de Frybourg. In the context of negotiations concerning Neuchâtel, George says that he is staying with his brother Jean, evidently at Payerne: "Je fusse allez de compaygnie avecque mon frere Jehan..." He has also called Falck "mon frère", clearly an informal use of the term, but explicable if George was indeed the brother of Jean de Rive, who had married Antonia, sister of Pierre Falck. Further, if George had been staying with Jean Falck, brother of Pierre, we think it would have been more honorific and far more natural to call him "votre frere Jehan". We have not established whether Jean Falck might have been living in Payerne at that time. However, by far the most plausible solution to the relationships and parentage of George de Rive would be that he was another son of Oddet de Rive.
Daguet notes citations that place George de Rive in military service in France 1499-1500, as well as citations that he interprets as evidence of citizenship in Bern about that time. Daguet also highlights many other interesting relationships that help to explain this central figure in the history of Neuchâtel.
Immediately upon the publication of Daguet's "Essai", he received a letter from Père Gremaud, which was published in the same volume of the Musée Neuchatelois ("Appendice à la biographie de Georges de Rive deuxième gouverneur de Neuchâtel", pp. 175-176), which contains several interesting developments:
Dans le numéro de mars de cette année, page 63, j'ai cherché à expliquer les relations du second gouverneur de Neuchâtel avec le fameux Avoyer Faulcon ou Falk de Fribourg par l'origine payernoise commune de ces deux personnages. Je soupçonnais une parenté entre eux sans pouvoir l'établir positivement. Mais la lettre suivante de M. l'abbé Gremaud, le savant bibliothécaire cantonal et professeur d'histoire á Fribourg, lève tout doute à cet égard, et nous fait connaître les rapports de famille qui existaient entre les Faulcon et les De Rive. Je donne la parole à mon honorable correspondant de Fribourg :
>«J'ai lu avec intérêt votre notice sur Georges de Rive, qui contient des détails réellement nouveaux. Sur les relations de ce personnage avec les Faulcon, je puis vous donner un renseignement intéressant.
«Le 11 septembre 1525, le vicaire général (Claude Marchiandi, prieur de Rougemont) de Jean de Foresta, abbé de Payerne, donna à cens diverses terres de cette abbaye à noble Georges de Rive. L'une de ces terres est limitée ainsi : «In dominio Paterniaci... juxta terram prefati nobilis Georgii de Rippa et Jacobi de Rippa ejus nepotis quam tenet Anthonia relicta Johannis de Rippa uxor Danyelis May de Friburgo, filiaque quondam Berardi Faulcon dicti loci Friburgi in assignationem dotis.»
«Ainsi, Anthonie, fille de Bérard Faulcon (soeur de l'avoyer), avait épousé en premières noces Jean de Rive, qui, d'après le contexte, devait être frère de Georges et père de Jacques, neveu de ce dernier; autrement on ne pourrait pas expliquer ce passage. Devenue veuve, Antonie épousa Daniel May ou Meyer de Fribourg.
«La femme de Bérard Faulcon s'appelait Perroneta; son nom de famille n'est pas connu. En second noces, elle épousa cet Aymon de Torculari dont vous avez parlé dans votre notice; elle parait avec celui-ci dans un acte du 2 décembre 1482, et Aymon y est qualifié «rector scolarum Gallicorum (sic Friburgi [rector of the school of the French, or of those students who speak French, at Fribourg].»
«Votre tout dévoué
«P. Gremaud.»
A. Daguet
(The correspondent is Père Jean Gremaud 1823-1897, prolific historian and president for over 30 years of the Société d'histoire du canton de Fribourg.)
We suggest a slightly different explanation of the evidence that Daguet thought implied citizenship in Bern. The situation was that Fribourg asked Bern to exert some control over George de Rive, because he had been recruiting soldiers in the territory of Fribourg for service in France. Now, the privilege of recruiting for private mercenary regiments was supposed to be tightly controlled by the governments of the cantons. Private recruiting was nevertheless rampant, if we can judge from the frequent controversies as well as the almost constant appearance of Swiss troops on both sides of almost every conflict in Europe. But when political expediency required, the governments had to try to stop private regiments serving on the "wrong" side. For example, in 1510 we find Louis Sterner, bourgeois and Notaire-Juré of Fribourg, along with two pillars of that city, Jacob Techtermann and Hensli Vöguilli, discovered to be recruiting soldiers there for foreign adventures, in violation of the ordonnances of the city council. The guilty parties were imprisoned in the Tour Rouge, and the matter went before the council, under the presiding Avoyer, Dietrich d'Englisberg. Severe punishment was contemplated, but through the intervention of their friends, the judges were induced to be relatively indulgent. The accused were only required to pay a fine of 10 livres, with the loss of their rights of citizenship, including prohibition to be admitted to church unless they had obtained a certificate of confession and absolution. Sterner found himself without employment (his position as notary now closed to him), and so moved to Bienne, where the position of secrétaire de ville was open (Alexandre Daguet, "Ludovic Sterner, greffier à Fribourg et secrétaire de ville à Bienne (1496-1540)", in Anzeiger für Schweizerische Geschichte, 3:221-222, 248-252, 289-294, [1879-1880], a story marred by many unfortunate typographical errors later noted by Daguet himself). With this background, it is understandable that Fribourg might have objected to the activities of George de Rive.
Why would Fribourg have asked Bern to act, rather than taking legal action before the council of Fribourg? One explanation springs immediately to mind: as a result of the events of 1475, Bern and Fribourg shared control of several areas, such as Grandson, Morat, etc. They implemented joint control in a very creative way, such that the "baillif" or "Landvogt" would be chosen alternately from Bern and then from Fribourg, every five years. Other administrators would come from the other canton, assuring a balance of power. We think the problem with George de Rive must have arisen in a year when an administrator from Bern had control over an area where Fribourg thought there was a chance of influencing him. Thus, the request to Bern need not imply citizenship in Bern, and indeed, there is no mention of this family having such status in the records of Bern. Following the same line of reasoning, the problem alluded to in Fribourg's request might well have occurred in one of these "bailliages communs", rather than in the traditional territory of Fribourg, and it is entirely possible that Bern did not find his activities objectionable, since the foreign policy aims of the two cantons were not necessarily identical. This state of affairs was probably so obvious to historians in the 1880's that Daguet would not have needed to call attention to it, but the implications of the politics of that day will have faded from the consciousness of today's audience.
The three daughters of George de Rive were still alive 22 dec 1567, when it was decided that Jeanne, Françoise, and Marguerite would hold equal and joint interest in the fief of Genollier, which their father had purchased for 2,000 écus d'or 22 jun 1528 from Charles, Duc de Savoie (the history of this fief, from a "grosse de reconnaissances" of the seigneurie de Givrins, prepared by Nillion 25 nov 1774, was published under the title "La seigneurie de Givrins" in Revue historique vaudoise 14:314-316, 350-352, 317-373, in 1906). Jeanne de Rive sold her third (the part that would become the seigneurie de Givrins) 16 sep 1570 to Noble Etienne son of Pierre son of Urbain Quisard, Seigneur de Crans. The third belonging to Marguerite was acquired by Françoise, and upon her death 08 feb 1591, her two thirds of the original fief of Genollier passed to her son, Georges de Diesbach, gouverneur de Neuchâtel.
Direct proof of the parentage of George de Rive, son of Oddet de Rive and brother of Jean de Rive, has now been located, in the registers of the notary Benoît Nible of Payerne (ACV Dp 73, 1547-1582); the transaction in question is in Dp 73/1, fol. 33, dated 20 mar 1550. The former Chambrier of the old Abbey of Payerne, Jean Robert, now residing in Fribourg, had given power of attorney to Jacob Fögelly le jeune bourgeois de Fribourg to recover certain documents in his favor from the de Rive family. The documents in question, in the form of an agreement of "partage" or division, was ultimately delivered by "Noble Dame Francese fille dudict noble George de Rive relaissée de feu Noble Hans Roch de Diesbach tant comme charge expresse sus cela ayant dudict Noble George de Rive son père et à celuy nom presente et delivrante, nommement la lettre de partaige nullement viciée ne corrompue, aultresfois faict entre Jehan et George de Rive filz de feu Oddet de Rive bourgeois de Paierne d'une part, et Pierre Rebur ? tant comme administrateur de Jehan, Stevenin, et Glauda ses enfans et de feu Marguerite sa femme fille dudict feu Oddet de Rive d'aultre part, receue et signée par feu Discret Pierre Morens notaire dudict Paierne soubz la date de vingt et quattrieme jour du mois d'octobre de l'an courant mille quattre centz novante six". The earlier notary was probably Pierre Moron fils, but his surviving register jumps from 1495 to 1498. Thus the original partage seems to have been lost.
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Protestant minister.